diff --git a/.gitlab-ci.yml b/.gitlab-ci.yml
index d4e36a122171fbcf5f43b0e41f8b6232f7f1c32a..0c61cf5b4a806461744ae73dd9b66a689ab19fac 100644
--- a/.gitlab-ci.yml
+++ b/.gitlab-ci.yml
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 variables:
   # note: GitLab cannot reference variables defined by users in the include ref:, we need to use a YAML anchor for this
   # see https://docs.gitlab.com/ci/yaml/includes/#use-variables-with-include for more information
-  IVAS_CODEC_CI_REF: &IVAS_CODEC_CI_REF 41186736915f5c0a857ac92e8ab438c434e5247d
+  IVAS_CODEC_CI_REF: &IVAS_CODEC_CI_REF a31272de16bd1b556269a50bc179321a60f2a500
 
 include:
   - local: .gitlab-ci/variables.yml
@@ -62,6 +62,9 @@ workflow:
     - if: $CI_PIPELINE_SOURCE == 'web' && $MANUAL_PIPELINE_TYPE == 'voip-be-test'
       variables:
         IVAS_PIPELINE_NAME: 'Voip BE test on $CI_COMMIT_BRANCH'
+    - if: $CI_PIPELINE_SOURCE == 'web' && $MANUAL_PIPELINE_TYPE == 'renderer-framesize-be'
+      variables:
+        IVAS_PIPELINE_NAME: 'Renderer framesize BE test on $CI_COMMIT_BRANCH'
     - if: $CI_PIPELINE_SOURCE == 'web' && $MANUAL_PIPELINE_TYPE == 'peaq-enc-passthrough'
       variables:
         IVAS_PIPELINE_NAME: 'PEAQ encoder pass-through test: $CI_COMMIT_BRANCH'
@@ -1060,6 +1063,63 @@ check-regressions-short-dec--10db:
     DUT_ENCODER_PATH: "$REF_ENCODER_PATH"
     MERGE_TARGET_ENCODER_PATH: "$REF_ENCODER_PATH"
 
+check-be-between-renderer-framesizes:
+  extends:
+    - .test-job-linux
+    # - .rules-pytest-to-main-short
+  rules:
+    - if: $CI_PIPELINE_SOURCE == 'web' && $MANUAL_PIPELINE_TYPE == "renderer-framesize-be"
+  stage: test
+  needs: ["build-codec-linux-make"]
+  script:
+    - bash "${CI_PROJECT_DIR}"/ivas-codec-ci/snippets/disable-limiter.sh
+    - make clean
+    - make -j
+    - echo "$SHORT_TEST_SUITE"
+
+    - bash "${CI_PROJECT_DIR}"/ivas-codec-ci/snippets/basop/build-float-ref-and-dut-binaries.sh
+    - python3 ci/remove_unsupported_testcases.py $PRM_FILES
+
+    - exit_code=0
+    - python3 -m pytest tests/codec_be_on_mr_nonselection --tb=no -v --ref_encoder_path ./IVAS_cod_ref --ref_decoder_path ./IVAS_dec --update_ref 1 --html=report-20ms.html --self-contained-html --junit-xml=report-junit-20ms.xml || exit_code=$?
+
+    - exit_code5=0
+    - exit_code10=0
+    - python3 -m pytest tests/codec_be_on_mr_nonselection --tb=no -v --ref_encoder_path ./IVAS_cod_ref --ref_decoder_path ./IVAS_dec --html=report-5ms.html --self-contained-html --junit-xml=report-junit-5ms.xml --dut_fr 5 --decoder_only || exit_code5=$?
+    - python3 -m pytest tests/codec_be_on_mr_nonselection --tb=no -v --ref_encoder_path ./IVAS_cod_ref --ref_decoder_path ./IVAS_dec --html=report-10ms.html --self-contained-html --junit-xml=report-junit-10ms.xml --dut_fr 10 --decoder_only || exit_code10=$?
+
+    - zero_errors5=$(cat report-junit-5ms.xml | grep -c 'errors="0"') || true
+    - zero_errors10=$(cat report-junit-10ms.xml | grep -c 'errors="0"') || true
+    - zero_errors=1
+
+    - *print-results-banner
+    - echo "!! Encoder command lines are in the 20ms log files only !!!"
+    - if [ $exit_code -ne 0 ]; then echo "20 ms framesize run already failed with errors."; zero_errors=0; fi
+    - if [ $zero_errors5 != 1 ]; then echo "run error with 5ms rendering encountered"; zero_errors=0 ; fi
+    - if [ $zero_errors10 != 1 ]; then echo "run error with 10ms rendering encountered"; zero_errors=0 ; fi
+    - if [ $zero_errors != 1 ]; then exit $EXIT_CODE_FAIL; fi
+    - if [ $exit_code5 -ne 0 ]; then echo "Non-bitexact cases encountered with 5ms rendering!"; exit_code=1; fi
+    - if [ $exit_code10 -ne 0 ]; then echo "Non-bitexact cases encountered with 10ms rendering!"; exit_code=1; fi
+    - if [ $exit_code -ne 0 ]; then exit $EXIT_CODE_FAIL; fi
+  artifacts:
+    name: "mr-$CI_MERGE_REQUEST_IID--sha-$CI_COMMIT_SHORT_SHA--stage-$CI_JOB_STAGE--results"
+    expire_in: 1 week
+    when: always
+    expose_as: "pytest 5ms and 10ms vs 20ms results"
+    paths:
+      - report-junit-5ms.xml
+      - report-5ms.html
+      - report-junit-10ms.xml
+      - report-10ms.html
+      - report-junit-20ms.xml
+      - report-20ms.html
+    reports:
+      junit:
+        - report-junit-5ms.xml
+        - report-junit-10ms.xml
+        - report-junit-20ms.xml
+
+
 # ---------------------------------------------------------------
 # Short test jobs for running from web interface or schedule
 # ---------------------------------------------------------------
diff --git a/.gitlab-ci/variables.yml b/.gitlab-ci/variables.yml
index 0c212d3121dfa022cae3f2f98ae5a7f44557a7b4..d91866b8623ebbe6a7f890afb9a3ba87d187bf8b 100644
--- a/.gitlab-ci/variables.yml
+++ b/.gitlab-ci/variables.yml
@@ -63,4 +63,5 @@ variables:
       - 'complexity'
       - 'coverage'
       - 'voip-be-test'
+      - 'renderer-framesize-be'
       - 'peaq-enc-passthrough'
diff --git a/lib_com/options.h b/lib_com/options.h
index 0fda6f452873745646d168aed32af2de2928ae2f..d1b3cb63e4f0e20bafe9f31d1fd8e41adc6fc06b 100644
--- a/lib_com/options.h
+++ b/lib_com/options.h
@@ -63,6 +63,8 @@
 /*define MEM_COUNT_DETAILS*/                   /* Output detailed memory analysis for the worst-case frame (writes to the file "mem_analysis.csv") */
 #endif
 
+/*#define DISABLE_LIMITER*/
+
 /* #################### End DEBUGGING switches ############################ */
 
 #ifndef BASOP_NOGLOB_DEV_USE_GLOBALS
diff --git a/lib_rend/lib_rend_fx.c b/lib_rend/lib_rend_fx.c
index 78c6acf4d45c4096185f9d0baf2be997a05e30cb..278046d083f61875eafd1a08da8dfd7ce114e75e 100644
--- a/lib_rend/lib_rend_fx.c
+++ b/lib_rend/lib_rend_fx.c
@@ -350,6 +350,7 @@ static void accumulate2dArrayToBuffer_fx(
  * In-place saturation control for multichannel buffers with adaptive release time
  *-------------------------------------------------------------------*/
 
+#ifndef DISABLE_LIMITER
 /*! r: number of clipped output samples */
 static Word32 limitRendererOutput_fx(
     IVAS_LIMITER_HANDLE hLimiter, /* i/o: limiter struct handle                                           */
@@ -393,6 +394,7 @@ static Word32 limitRendererOutput_fx(
 
     return numClipping;
 }
+#endif
 
 /*-------------------------------------------------------------------*
  * validateOutputAudioConfig()
@@ -7325,7 +7327,9 @@ static ivas_error getSamplesInternal(
     test();
 
     Word32 limiter_thresold = L_lshl( IVAS_LIMITER_THRESHOLD, *outAudio.pq_fact );
+#ifndef DISABLE_LIMITER
     limitRendererOutput_fx( hIvasRend->hLimiter, outAudio.data_fx, outAudio.config.numSamplesPerChannel, limiter_thresold, *outAudio.pq_fact );
+#endif
 
     /* update global cominbed orientation start index */
     ivas_combined_orientation_update_start_index( hIvasRend->hCombinedOrientationData, outAudio.config.numSamplesPerChannel );